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metsman כתב:SC דלף באיזור ה-20 למאי שנה שעברה, כאשר מועד יציאת הדיסק היה החמישי ליוני,

ככה שיש עוד זמן,
קשה לי להאמין שהוא ידלוף לפני סוף מאי, תחילת יוני

I'll write my own little "review" here:
Wither is a nice power ballad that is pretty cliched and standard, and has very little surprises to it. It's not a bad song though. Memorable chorus, nice melodies, and a nice power ballad solo. Lyrically it remind me of Answer Lies Within, being a sort of "pep-talk" song. If you go to that jumbled radio preview from eddie trunk, the "let it out" part is from wither.

Shattered Fortress has pretty much all the memorable riffs from all the AA saga songs melded into one song. So yes, of course there's a lot of TGP stuff in there, there's also a lot of TDS and ROAE stuff in there (and some of Repentence as well), and there's a lot of lyrical references back to what has been done in earlier songs. Many times the riffs and the vocals have a twist to them that makes it a bit different, or they change the entire mood of the riff altogether (by slowing or speeding it), but overall - it HAS to be listened to with the other songs in the AA saga in mind imo. It does not work that well on its own, but it works very well as an ender. In fact, the entire saga flows pretty well from start to end as it is now, with the only jarring segue being that from ROAE into Repentence due to octavarium being sonically connected from track to track, so there's an abrupt cut there. But I thought Dt were done with the whole "ending something where something else begins" thing....

The best of times. A very emotional piece, loads of piano-playing, accoustic guitars, violins, and good vocal melodies. A bit long-winded, but never boring, and thankfully they didn't go into any sillyness with multiple soloing, awkward "let's change the melody/rhythm here for the sake of changing" moments. This, and wither, makes the album for me, which is kinda weird considering these two songs are the least "dream theater"-songs on there!

As for the count of tuscany - it really feels like three different songs pasted together. The first 11 minutes are a pretty standard whackyness Dream Theater song. The first 4 minutes of it is pretty darn good (except for one seriously disjointed change which i'm sure is the one JR talked about in the interview), then it goes into 7 minutes of standard verses and choruses, not terrible, but not particularly memorable either. And there's also the case of it being the most horrendous lyrics I've ever heard. The story itself isn't that bad, but it's clunkily written, and it doesn't fit the music AT ALL. Why can't they come up with a story and write music to fit it, instead of writing music and then try to fit some words to that is beyond me. But then they go into a pink floyd style moody synthpad thing, musically completely disconnected from what transpired before it, but on it's own a very nice piece of music. It would in fact be a very good instrumental in the vein of Eve or something to that effect, if it'd been made into a seperate piece and fleshed out a bit more. But then they build it into a rock anthem style song, which at least is connected to the stuff that followed right before it, and ends with the obligatory "whoa whoa whoa" rock anthem ending choir, seemingly made for audience participation.

yyzboy1928 כתב:איזה דרימיסט מקומבן עם רודראנד השיג עותק של האלבום וכתב את דעתו על 4 השירים שלא שמענו עוד..

I'll write my own little "review" here:

As for the count of tuscany - it really feels like three different songs pasted together. The first 11 minutes are a pretty standard whackyness Dream Theater song. The first 4 minutes of it is pretty darn good (except for one seriously disjointed change which i'm sure is the one JR talked about in the interview), then it goes into 7 minutes of standard verses and choruses, not terrible, but not particularly memorable either. And there's also the case of it being the most horrendous lyrics I've ever heard. The story itself isn't that bad, but it's clunkily written, and it doesn't fit the music AT ALL. Why can't they come up with a story and write music to fit it, instead of writing music and then try to fit some words to that is beyond me. But then they go into a pink floyd style moody synthpad thing, musically completely disconnected from what transpired before it, but on it's own a very nice piece of music. It would in fact be a very good instrumental in the vein of Eve or something to that effect, if it'd been made into a seperate piece and fleshed out a bit more. But then they build it into a rock anthem style song, which at least is connected to the stuff that followed right before it, and ends with the obligatory "whoa whoa whoa" rock anthem ending choir, seemingly made for audience participation.

TCOT!! TCOT!!! TCOT!!

YtseJam כתב:אני לא מבין אותך פוגי...

בינתיים יש יותר ביקורות חיוביות מאשר שליליות (3 נגד 1), אבל אתה בוחר להתמקד דווקא בזו השלילית, ועוד אחת שלקוחה מפורום שידוע לשמצה שכל מה שעושים בו זה לומר רק דברים שליליים על דרים (ולא כי הם אובייקטיביים יותר או משהו כזה) (למכירים, Five Eight Forums מול DTF, אבל זה פחות רלוונטי).

אומנם לא צריך "לבחור" בצד האופטימי/חיובי רק בגלל שיש יותר ביקורות כאלו, אבל באותה מידה זה ממש עוד לא הזמן לבחור גם בצד השלילי...
נשמע לי counter-productive, או לכל הפחות פשוט מיותר לעשות...

YtseJam כתב:האמת שזה קצת מצחיק אותי כי המוזיקה של דרים היא ככה (זאת אומרת, כביכול )... זו אחת הביקורות הגדולות עליה.
יש את אלו שזה מפריע להם ויש את אלו שזה לא מפריע להם...

אני שמח שאני פשוט מסוגל ליהנות מהיצירות של הלהקה בלי ניתוחים מיותרים ללא הפסקה ו"שטויות" אחרות שכאלו.

כמו שלא צריך לנתח כל דבר גם לא צריך לאכול כל דבר בלי תלונות

pugi כתב:

כמו שלא צריך לנתח כל דבר גם לא צריך לאכול כל דבר בלי תלונות

מופנה לעידן בעיקר - אנחנו חופרים בעיקר כי אין לנו מה לעשות כשאנחנו שומעים בפעם המליון את שני השירים.